Saturday, February 28, 2009

Manhattan Beach-Beach Cities: Changes in the market


I've always said that real estate values in Manhattan Beach and the Beach Cities would hold up better then in other parts of Southern California ... and so far this has been true. I also said that all bets were off if we hit a recession. There is no question that we are in a very bad recession... with no end in sight. Today the stock market went where no one wanted to see it go. Unemployment in California jumped to 10.5% and we are going to see hikes in both Federal and state taxes. The South Bay may still be a bit better off then other parts of the state, but the outlook isn't pretty.

I thought we might squeeze by with another 10%-12% decline in home values this year but after hearing about the Administration's plans to increase revenue over the next few years coupled with the massive tax hikes in CA, and a complete lack of confidence in the market... it looks as if I was wrong. Yep... that's right... I was Wrong and I admit it.

I don't know how far prices will drop, and neither does anyone else, but the handwriting is on the wall that prices are moving lower and much faster then expected. A number of builders are in serious trouble. There are still new homes that have been on the market since 2007 without finding a buyer. Other projects didn't get off the ground until well into the market decline and are facing stiff competition for buyers. A number of homes that were rented may be hitting the market again as investors want to get their money out of the projects. You are going to see more short sales and REO's pop up on new construction. As prices on new construction float down that will put pressure on older homes.


In addition, if the recession continues much longer, a lot folks may be facing some real financial hardship over the coming year. As more people lose their jobs or have their income reduced many will opt to sell their homes in order to relocate to another area or state in search of employment. As inventory increases and buyers have more choices prices are going to fall... supply and demand on the other end of the spectrum.


A third factor in the Beach Cities might be because of the planned increase in the capital gain tax that the President wants. If I had owned a large home for a long time and planned to move to a smaller home or even out of the area I would definitely put my property on the market. There is a big difference between a 15% tax on gain and a 20% tax if you saw some major appreciation in the value of your property.

I've talked to a number of buyers in the last month or so who just don't know what they want to do. Some are dropping out of the market for a few months or a year. Others are still ready to buy but are very cautious about price. Today's low rates are enticing for those who plan to own for a long time. If you are in a quandary the best thing to do is pull out a pencil and see what the difference in your payment would be if you bought today at a low fixed rate vs if you wait and prices drop another 15% but rates move up 1%-2%.

All of these issues will put increased pressure on the South Bay-Beach Cities housing market. When you add tougher lending underwriting and down payment requirements, the pool of truly qualified buyers gets smaller. Homes are selling but at lower prices as buyers maneuver through a dicey market. Buyers are in the drivers seat for this ride and they are going to make payback rough for sellers.









Wednesday, February 25, 2009

South Bay-Beach Cities:Buying or Refinancing...6 things you need to know




If you are thinking of buying a property or refinancing your South Bay-Beach Cities home there are 6 things you should know about the current financial market.


While almost everyone knows that lenders have tightened their rules about making loans; most people really don't quite understand what that means when they are shopping a loan for a purchase or a refinance. If the only real estate loans you have obtained have been within the last 7 years... you may be in for a shock.


The rules have changed drastically from a few years ago. The Beach Cities have seen conforming loan limits raised to $729,750 but these loans, known as conforming Jumbo loans, have a higher rate then loans under $417,000. If you want a jumbo loan (over $729,750) you will need a big down payment along with excellent FICO scores. You will also need to be patient as a number of lenders are not offering jumbo loans because they have to keep them as part of their in-house portfolio rather then sell them to Fannie and Freddie.


6 things you need to know if you want to refinance your current loan or would like to buy a property....

1. I have great credit.... maybe... maybe not... a lot has changed in the last year. So what is a good credit score today? Two years ago a good FICO was 700 or better. In today's world a 700 FICO will cost you money. I stole the chart below from Dan Green at The Mortgage Reports. If you check out the chart (Fannie & Freddie rate fees) you can see that a credit score under 740 is going to cost you upfront fees in addition to the points the lender wants. These fees are for conforming loans. If you are looking for a non-conforming loan (jumbo) the best rates are for those with FICOs of 780 or higher.




2. I have 20% down so no problem... on a conforming loan ( $729,750-) 20%-25% down and good credit (720 FICO+)will work ...usually. If you want to utilize an FHA loan then you can have as little as 3% down and a slightly lower FICO score but you will get a higher rate and pay some upfront fees. If you are looking for a loan over $729,750 then 20% and good credit isn't enough. You may find lenders wanting 30%-40% down with great credit (750+ FICO)and a good chunk of cash in reserve. The guys who 2 years ago would have tripped over themselves to throw money at you will now barely acknowledge you exist.


3. My income is 1099 based not W2 but I make lots of money... There has been a lot of talk about stated income loans... those loans were made for people who were not traditional W-2 employees. Today many lenders turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to 1099 employees. There are a few lenders making stated income loans with a large down, verification of assets and 2 years in the business. For the most part 1099 employees are out of the loop unless they have very large bank accounts.


4. But Interest rates have dropped... Rates have indeed dropped but the "great rates" are only for those with high FICO scores and large down payments. Conforming loans with 10% down or FHA's are not to be found for 5%. The big boys with large accounts can find some sweet deals on jumbo loans but most borrowers are going to need high FICO's and pay points to see those lower rates.



5. I can always get an adjustable...buyers got used to having a number of choices in the types/terms of adjustable loans. There are more choices for conforming loans but if you are seeking a jumbo loan you may find your choices limited to a 1/1 or a 5/1 term . A number of lenders are not making 7/1 or 10/1 loans as they are not sure where rates will go in the future. If you are thinking of interest only add at least another .25% or more to the rate.


6. I have 20% equity, so a refi should be a snap... Don't count on it. There are not many lenders who will even consider a loan-to-value even if you use the same lender . Some lenders are looking for 30%-40% equity on a refinance in markets they feel are trending downward. On a similar note lenders are not real crazy about cash out refinancing. There are some who have those programs but they are likely to cost more money.


In today's market the best way to ensure you get a loan is to do your homework. Don't assume that because you got a loan a few years ago without any issues that you can do the same today. If you are buying a home you need to be fully approved before making an offer and be ready to throw in additional cash if necessary. If you are refinancing, don't expect the process to be easy. Remember, banks are more apt to give loans to people with substantial resources... and cash in the bank can buy a lot of goodwill.



Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Manhattan Beach, CA: King of the Hill






In this market we are so concerned with how low will it go... that we forget that there are buyers who will pay a high price for a property they feel has value. A lot of people who live in Manhattan Beach don't realize that there are some truly spectacular homes in our town. They rarely come on the market and were generally owner built. They are not all found on The Strand or in the Sand. There are a number of them in the Hill section and in parts of East Manhattan that most residents don't realize exist.



I'm not a big fan of contemporary architecture and I never blog about another agent's listing... Bob Lane of Shorewood and Julie Lyon of RE/MAX Beach Cities... but in the case of 218 Anderson, Manhattan Beach I'm going to make an exception as most residents will never view this home or even realize just how lovely it is.

This is what a home in this price range should be. The views and the grounds are splendid. It really does remind you of a fabulous vacation spot.... but you know this a place where a family can live. It is adult and kid friendly. There are wonderful spaces that make entertaining a snap for adults. Kids of any age would love inviting their friends over to shoot hoops, swim in the pool or watch movies in the home theater. There is a separate suite for older parents if the need arises or guests.

As you would expect the home is large... 8500 sq ft on a 13,000 sq ft lot. There are 8 bedrooms, 8.5 baths, formal living and dining areas, a gym, home theater, a couple of family rooms, a caterer's kitchen and more. The home is incredibly light with windows galore and spaces that are open to indoor/outdoor living. You have fabulous ocean and PV views while maintaining your privacy. The home generates a sense of serenity. If you haven't guessed by now I really loved this home.



The property is being offered at $9,988,000



While the price limits the number of buyers, I suspect that those in this price range will not be disappointed. As for me... if I win the lottery this would be first on my list of things to buy!

Friday, February 20, 2009

Manhattan Beach Open House: Open Sun. March 1, 2009 1-4 pm.

Open Sunday March 1, 2009....1-4 pm

Conforming loan limits are back to $729,750 and the owners will carry back a second trust deed for 10% of the sales price ...Price is now $1,125,000....



If you missed this one... stop by and take a look. This is ideal if you need a less expensive home in the Robinson school district...

This is a great opportunity for buyers who want to move to the Hill section of Manhattan Beach. The price has been reduced to $1,125,000 making it one of the best priced homes in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section. In addition to a lower price, the owner will consider holding a second trust deed for a qualified buyer. This will allow a buyer to purchase with confidence in today's often confusing financial market. Many lenders will not lend as much as they would a few years ago even to well qualified buyers. If you have been considering purchasing a home in Manhattan Beach but have been a bit unsure about financing alternatives this might be a home to consider.













511 Dianthus in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section offers a good choice for buyers who are deciding to follow a more conservative path. This lovely home has over 1900 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, large dining area, delightful family area and a great entertainment room with space to spare for the big TV and a view that doesn't stop. The serene rear garden and soothing sounds of the waterfall bring a sense of calm after a busy day. A new price makes this home worthy of consideration.... $1,125,000.

Thursday, February 19, 2009

Beach Cities: Sold January 2009




Hermosa Beach





So far February 2009 is quite month. First Congress passed and the President signed a $787 Billion stimulus bill . The White House released details of The Mortgage stability plan and it seems that California finally has a budget. What impact these three major programs will have on the South Bay-Beach Cities real estate market remains to be seen.



A few buyers will be able to take advantage of the $8000 buyer tax credit, but they will have to buy a home before November 30, 2009. The increase in the conforming loan limit to $729,750 will be a benefit for most buyers in the Beach Cities. It is unlikely that many homeowners who are in trouble in California, let alone the Beach Cities, will see any benefits from the Mortgage stability plan as it appears to only apply to loans under $417,000( although they may include some loans larger then that as new loan limits are higher). Those with Jumbo loans need not apply. As for the new State budget... well... we will all be paying a lot more in taxes and fees.



Meanwhile back to the Beach Cities real estate picture. January was a repeat of December and November. However sales do appear to be looking up slightly... especially in Redondo Beach. Since February 1, 2009... there are 9 pending sales in El Segundo, 15 in Manhattan Beach, 9 in Hermosa, 20 in North Redondo and 21 in South Redondo. While not exactly mind numbing, they are better numbers then we saw in the last few months. As prices continue to decline we should see some additional sales, especially in the entry levels, as the new loan limits of $729,750 kick in again.





The upper end of the market is seeing an increase in inventory and a decrease in sales. There are 39 homes in the Beach Cities priced at $4,000,000 or more with just 2 pending sales. Not that this price range was ever a fast mover, but there seems to be more inventory hitting the market then we saw in previous years.








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Saturday, February 14, 2009

Manhattan Beach- Beach Cities: Loan Limits Raised


Amid all the hoopla about the $7500..nope $15,00... make that an $8,000 tax credit... there was almost no mention about reinstating the hybrid conforming loan limits back to $729,750 ( or $727,000 depending on wo you read)from $625,000. This is good news for South Bay-Beach home buyers and owners who want to refinance existing loans.

The final tax credit will have a limited impact on our market because of limits on income and local home prices. Increasing the conforming loan limits however will have an impact on our Beach Cities real estate markets. Last year in the short time frame these loans existed(July-Nov.), a number of buyers took advantage of them. While the rates on these loans are slightly higher then rates on loans under $417,000 they are usually considerably lower then those on Jumbo loans... and much easier to obtain.

Anyone who has been loan shopping lately knows that jumbo loans are still expensive and not easy to obtain. Most lenders have a loan max of $1,000,000, with LTV around 50%-70% depending on the loan amount. There are not a lot of choices as to the term... either a 5/1 or a 30 year fixed. FICO scores to get a rate around 6.65% must be over 750+. The bank may also want you to set up an account with them to provide for direct deposit of the monthly payments. If you want a rate around 6% you will need a FICO of at least 780+. If you want to buy a $2M home you will need 50% cash down.


While banks will make loans over the $1M mark these only go to members of the bank's High Roller Club..( those having accounts at the private banking window) which usually means that you are willing to keep a minimum of $100,000 or more in accounts at the bank. The more money you stash in the bank the higher the loan amount, the longer the term and the lower the rate. Historically this was how banks conducted business back in the good old days.


A number of lenders are getting rid of their wholesale operations and only making loans directly to consumers via in house staff. This means that most Mortgage Brokers will not be able to place loans with BofA, Chase, Wells Fargo or many of the Big Banks. The banks often have better rates but usually offer fewer choices to consumers as they may only offer one or two loan options. Traditionally Mortgage Brokers were able to offer consumers an array of products. This means fewer options for buyers or for owners looking to refinance.


Manhattan Beach: Open House Sat-Sun 1-4pm

511 N Dianthus...Price Reduced to $1,125,000....

Open Saturday Februrary 14, 2009 and Sunday February 15, 2009....1-4 pm

If you missed this one... stop by and take a look. This is ideal if you need a less expensive home in the Robinson school district... Conforming loan limits are back up to $729,750 or $727,000 depending on the source.

This is a great opportunity for buyers who want to move to the Hill section of Manhattan Beach. The price has been reduced to $1,125,000 making it one of the best priced homes in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section. In addition to a lower price, the owner will consider holding a second trust deed for a qualified buyer. This will allow a buyer to purchase with confidence in today's often confusing financial market. Many lenders will not lend as much as they would a few years ago even to well qualified buyers. If you have been considering purchasing a home in Manhattan Beach but have been a bit unsure about financing alternatives this might be a home to consider.













511 Dianthus in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section offers a good choice for buyers who are deciding to follow a more conservative path. This lovely home has over 1900 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, large dining area, delightful family area and a great entertainment room with space to spare for the big TV and a view that doesn't stop. The serene rear garden and soothing sounds of the waterfall bring a sense of calm after a busy day. A new price makes this home worthy of consideration.... $1,125,000.

Thursday, February 12, 2009

South Bay-Beach Cities: Foreclosures January - December 2008



I was recently chastised by a reader who didn't think I was gloomy enough about the current Beach Cities real estate market. He felt that by not saying the entire market was falling apart and we were headed toward the depths of the great abyss I was cheer leading... The Beach Cities real estate market just isn't where he wants it to be right now. It may wind up there but it isn't there today... and if he considers that cheer leading... then he's right.


The problem is that I've been through a number of these markets and while the current market is no great shakes...in fact it stinks... it is far from the worst I've seen over the years. A major measure of where the market is headed is in the number of Bank Owned(***REO) properties in a community. We are definitely seeing more then we saw in previous years because the market has changed. There are more in December of 2008 then there were in January 2008; but we are a long way from seeing the problems of other parts of the state. Palmdale and Lancaster have been seeing 200-300 per day per city.

Will we see more *NOD's, ** NOT's and ***REO's next year... of course. The economy sucks and people are losing their jobs, getting divorced and facing health issues...even in Manhattan Beach and the Beach Cities. Last year The Beach Cities combined saw a total of 85 homes become lender owned.... 6 in El Segundo, 10 in Manhattan Beach, 12 in Hermosa Beach, 39 in North Redondo and 18 in South Redondo. It would not surprise me to see at least twice that number in 2009. These numbers will not create chaos in the Beach Cities. They will however push prices further downward...as appraisers view the REO prices as appropriate market comps rather then aberrations in the marketplace. This is bad news for sellers and good news for buyers.


South Bay-Beach Cities: NOD's January - December 2008




South Bay-Beach Cities: NOT's January - December 2008





South Bay-Beach Cities: REO's January-December 2008













January 2009 figures will not be available until the end of February.

* NOD's( Notice of Default)
** NOT's ( Notice of Trustee Sale)
*** REO's ( Bank owned properties)


Click here for information on how the foreclosure process works....

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Manhattan Beach: Market Snapshot February 10, 2009


Manhattan Beach: February Days on Market


January 2009 was not a stellar month for Manhattan Beach real estate with 7 homes and 2 townhomes closing escrow. As we ease into February, it's not looking much better. Buyers are visiting open houses but they don't yet feel a need to make a decision about buying a home. Some are concerned about the economy and their jobs but many are just biding their time waiting to find the best deal. The market appears to be down but not out...

Prices are moving downward but not by the amounts many were predicting. For much of the last year the median price of homes for sale in Manhattan Beach hovered around $1,999,000. This month the median price is $1,850,000. The Days on Market figures are increasing in all neighborhoods and price ranges(see graph above). Inventory is creeping back to levels we saw last year. Currently there are 170 homes and 36 townhomes on the market. Many are homes that have returned to the market after taking a break for the holidays...others are new to the market. There are 46 new construction homes for sale.



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Saturday, February 07, 2009

Manhattan Beach Open House: 511 N Dianthus Sunday 1-4 pm

511 N Dianthus...Price Reduced to $1,125,000....

Open Sunday Februrar 8, 2009 1-4 pm

If you missed this one... stop by and take a look. This is ideal if you need a less expensive home in the Robinson school district...

This is a great opportunity for buyers who want to move to the Hill section of Manhattan Beach. The price has been reduced to $1,125,000 making it one of the best priced homes in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section. In addition to a lower price, the owner will consider holding a second trust deed for a qualified buyer. This will allow a buyer to purchase with confidence in today's often confusing financial market. Many lenders will not lend as much as they would a few years ago even to well qualified buyers. If you have been considering purchasing a home in Manhattan Beach but have been a bit unsure about financing alternatives this might be a home to consider.













511 Dianthus in the Manhattan Beach Hill Section offers a good choice for buyers who are deciding to follow a more conservative path. This lovely home has over 1900 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, large dining area, delightful family area and a great entertainment room with space to spare for the big TV and a view that doesn't stop. The serene rear garden and soothing sounds of the waterfall bring a sense of calm after a busy day. A new price makes this home worthy of consideration.... $1,125,000.

Thursday, February 05, 2009

South Bay-Beach Cities Home Sales: Will $15 K make a difference


The U.S. Senate in an effort to customize their version of the Bailout Bill and add a few more perks the House missed, voted to give home buyers a credit of 10% of the sale price or a maximum of $15,000 on a home purchase. Of course the bill is not actually a done deal... It has to go back to The House and then be signed by The President before it takes effect. Right now I'm guessing the bill will be changed along the way and won't be ready for consumers anytime soon... if ever.



Unlike the previous version of a $7500 tax credit that must be paid back..the new bill will not require buyers to reimburse the government...ie taxpayers... for the money. I understand the idea behind the bill but once again I think the folks in DC are off the mark.



Would a $15,000 credit stimulate sales in the South Bay-Beach Cities...yes and no. Certainly getting an extra $15K credit looks like a good deal for anyone buying but the problem is that while the credit is nice, it's pretty useless if banks are not making loans. And therein lies one of the major problems with many of the ideas about real estate and the housing market floating around Washington.



You can pass stimulus packages 'til the cows come home..but they are pretty useless if consumers can't use them. If the boys in DC are really serious about doing something about the housing crisis then I would suggest that the first step is putting a few conditions on the money they are passing around to lending instutions... namely if you want money from the government you have to make loans on homes.

Manhattan Beach... Million Dollar Sales and Foreclosures


If you caught the LA Times article about Million Dollar home sales in CA you know that in 2008 Manhattan Beach had more home sales over one million then any other community in the state. There were 296 sales in Manhattan Beach of homes above $1M in 2008 . While that probably makes most Manhattan Beach homeowners happy as an indication that values didn't take a complete nosedive... the information also points out that 2008 numbers were down considerably from the 403 homes that sold in 2007. So far this year that trend seems to be continuing with closed sales in January 2009 of 7 homes and 2 townhomes...ouch!

None of this information is surprising if you are buying or selling a home in Manhattan Beach or any of the Beach Cities. Sellers are trying to figure out the magic number that will make a buyer decide to make an offer, while Buyers are waiting for prices to drop more and loans to get easier to obtain.

There is a lot of information in the article that didn't make the headline. If you read the chart one of the things that pops out is that price-wise Manhattan Beach is in the middle of the pack. While prices are still on the high side they are below the prices of Laguna Beach, Newport Beach and even some areas of Palos Verdes.

However you have to read most of the article before you find what is perhaps the most significant piece of information...namely that of the 236,000 homes that went into foreclosure last year...only 1,612 were homes that sold over the $1M mark. I believe we will see more million dollar plus home in trouble this year as the economy worsens, but as a percentage that number will continue to be small relative to the total number of REO homes in CA.


Over the last few years there has been this assumption that anyone who bought an expensive home really couldn't afford the home. While I have no doubt there are a number of buyers who did get in over their heads... the low numbers above seem to indicate that perhaps most folks who bought in the more expensive communities were not as financially imprudent as many thought.